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8th November 2009Poetry in motion!Well in truth ut is highly unlikely that such prose would be uttered whilst concentrating on sorting out and setting up such things as valve gear and paving the way for the motion to be added, but work is certainly progressing and that is always good for newsletter prose! The cross-heads are now up in place in the slide bars and pistons are back in the cylinders. New valves rings are on order and hopefully the valves can be re-assembled soon too. It is hoped that the loco chassis might be able to go into the works for a short period, once the overhaul of the E4 is completed, to allow the coupling rods and connecting rods to go up on the chassis.
The tender
...and there you have it. Call in anytime to see us at the park and take a look at 1638 which remains in active service (after having had its wheelset driving pin sorted out, which had temporarily laid her up. The pin was the one repaired at overhaul which had slipped in its driving wheel recess, but is now a secure fitting again) 27th July 2009Side splitting fun!
The frames themselves are now on their wheelsets of course. I present for you then a view across the top of the frames showing the axles in place and some of the shiny non-ferrous metals to be seen on the axleboxes. Also in the pictures you can see Mel and Jo taking a break from some of the tender renovation work. Want to come and share the tea and biscuits? then get yourself down to the Park on a Sunday at 10 with overalls... easy as that.. and the engine will be back in service faster too!
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New bits and pieces for the tender...and in this case this means some pipework to replace the old |
A moment's pause on a sunny day!
These are the days to remember when its indoor working stuff only in January. A splendid day at the Park to do a bit and watch the engines move in and out of the station from time to time, making for a great tea break! |
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Boiler
A look at the firehole door area, from the inside shows one or two other issues yet to be resolved. The over lapped copper plates are thin and corroded in the corner. These will get replaced or built up by a specialist copper welder. The rivets will also be renewed. The steel doorway itself needs its fixing holes rebuilding too.
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29th June 2009"Wheels meet again... ! Boiler And finally, the new blastpipe pattern is now complete. A big “thank-you” is due to Roy Stirling (shown in the picture here) and Sid Prentice for the long and time consuming work put into making the pattern and core boxes. We look forward to seeing the finished item in due course.
1638 PMV You will be pleased to know that we have won the Rail Category in the Eastbourne Historic Vehicle Club 2009 Awards Scheme for the restoration of our PMV. A well done to all involved in this work. The van does look splendid but we weren't over confident as a van isn't as instantly impressive as an engine or coach. The hard work and quality o final product was recognised though we are pleased to say. Another feather in the cap for the society! We will be receiving a cheque for £100, and will go forward into the 'Overall Winner' competition (which we won when we entered No.1638), when we will be up against other Category winners such as historic cars, tractors, etc.. The overall winner is selected by EHVC members after presentations by all the category winners on the evening of June 25, for which a prize of £400 and a plaque is won. ...Fundraising 847Now that 847’s frames are re-wheeled we need to continue to be able to progress the overhaul and fundraising is as ever an issue for us. So please do what you can to help… and please send donations, made payable to Maunsell Locomotive Society Ltd, to the Treasurer, 312 Riverside Mansions, Milk Yard, London E1W 3TA. Thank you, in advance, for your help
9th January 2009Stay..just a little bit longer...S15 class 847
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847 Frame and wheelset work
The axle box is fitted in the hornguides to check for fit and clearance (for your information, the bronze square with shiny machined part circle is the axle box, the black area is a section of the frames)
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So when is the re-wheeling?It is now hoped that re-wheeling of 847 chassis will take place sometime around Easter. Timing will be dependent on the work on 1638 being completed so that the final work on”bedding in” the axle boxes can take place in the workshop. Once this completed…. A start can be made on re-assembling the motion onto the frames. Watch this space as they say!
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Work on 1638As mentioned earlier1638 had to go into the works for 148 stays to be replaced that were leaking, mostly below footplate level. This has required the boiler to be lifted up clear from the frames. | ||||||||||||||||
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Stowe. We have not forgotten Stowe. One of our members, Neville Watts, has taken on the task of obtaining a quotation for fabrication of a new copper firebox for Stowe. Drawings have been sent to one of the UK’s leading boiler repair works in order to obtain a price for this task. This will be the most costliest element of the project.
Stowe “taking the air” outside on S&D weekend in October 2008.
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back to top9th November 2008Bogie that is above par!S15 class 847As we look to rewheel the frames of 847 there are things that need to be sorted in advance of course. Planning the crane lift has to be done in advance and it will be a wasted and expensive effort if all is not ready to go on the big day. To this end, the front bogie of the engine has been prepared. This is no mean feat as it has been completed, overhauled with new springs going into it. The picture here shows the frame of the bogie all done and featuring its new springs. Springs are a theme elsewhere too where the springhangers stand like guards on parade cleaned up and ready to hang when rewheeling comes.
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There are other issues to deal with in the firebox too such as the thin metal where sheets of copper overlap. In most cases this will be built up with copper welding, a tricky and expensive, but effective process. Also the rivets are an issue. take a look at the picture. These rivets are seriously eroded and needing replacement. Instead of domed outwards some are dished inwards. Another for the "to-do" list!
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12th Aug 2008 and also an interim upate on the 10th Oct 08Blast!S15 class 847..and in several senses of the word! The recent AGM, at its now traditional time of first Sunday in August, gave the society a good time to take stock of its current position with regard to restoration progress, financial situation and future plans and ambitions. Firstly lets consider the main thrust of the society's activities, namely S15 No.847. The engine was you may recall somewhat short changed during its first term of service at the Bluebell when the rules regarding boiler ticket life span were changed after the event, lopping years off the length of time we could expect to see 847 running. On the upside of this however there are certain plusses. The wheels were in real need of having their tyres turned. This is now done. Secondly all the components are there, not much to have to make up from scratch beyond the routine. Thirdly a lot of the mechanics of the engine are still in very good shape. It is this collection of facts that make us optimistic that the engine can run within a year. To this end, this is what has been happening. A new blastpipe is being prepared. A look at this picture will show you that it is needed too with the old one showing previous patches. to cut costs a pattern is being prepared and casting will be made from it in conjunction with the Sir Lamiel (King Arthur Class No.777) people who also are need of an identical part. The second picture shows the pattern in the pattern shop at Sheffield Park under construction.
Of course having had the tyres turned we are working towards a re-wheeling. This can only happen when we have axles boxes ready to mount the chassis on. The pictures show firstly the axles boxes lined up ready to be worked on, sporting their nice new shiny slides to mate up against the chassis hornguides, and secondly a box on the boring machine having its white metal machined to the size of the journal it will sit against. A bit of a painstaking job, that needs a fair degree of accuracy, and so a bit time consuming. Well done Tony Funnell!
Other work has been continuing around the engine. Starting with the frames, under the smokebox an area of the right hand frame had to be renewed where it mated with the smokebox. This is a smart job now complete as you can see. The other picture gives a general view of the saddle area under the smokebox, that now the repair mentioned has been effected is in actually quite good shape.
The other main event I guess is the boiler, the bain of most repair and restoration jobs. Ours is in the works and is getting extensive stay renewal. The pictures show the inside of the firebox where stays have been renewed and an external shot too. For the most part the firebox and wrappers are in good shape. it will be getting a retube of course, something that never happened the first time around; it ran with the tubes that BR had last put in. The new smokebox is complete now thanks to the efforts of Melvyn, and ready for the reassembly.
Other pictures that I throw in for good measure show two different facets of day to day activity. One shows Mike painting away on the cylinder covers, a light but nevertheless important task, and the other show the valve heads and ring sets which will require Rays on going tremendous engineering skills to refurbish and eventually set up. All a part of the greater picture in the event that is a steam engine overhaul.
V Class Stowe 928Stowe has had a pre-repair inspection carried out. Like 847 the benefit of having run before in restoration is there and all parts are present and correct. The downside was the unknown which has been checked out by former Bluebell Works manager Keith Sturt. The hard fact is that the boiler requires some serious work. Work levels akin to those expended on Birch Grove some time ago are needed. The firebox is cracked and requires new sections, as does the outer wrapper. The tubes will need renewal of course, but the boiler barrel itself cannot be fully examined until the tubes are out The lower front of the firebox outer is a mess though and needs platework. What this is all leading to is a repair cost figure that most likely comfortably outstrips the cost of the loco as purchased itself! There are two main ways forward, a rich benefactor (step forward please!) or we have to investigate the viability of various grant options (which is any case would require us to raise monies towards the overhaul). This is the early stage of where we are at. On the upside, 928 does have a nicely refurbished tender that is ready of action, and a lot of goodwill to see her running again. Q Class 541The Bluebell has a need for a class 3 or 4 engine that is economical and, given the exertions of the extension project, requires not too much financially to put into action. Step forward 541 your time has come! Our very own Q class seems to have moved up the queue as it is the right engine for the right time. It is popular with engine crews, light on coal, has sufficient power for what the railway might demand, and is in quite good shape. The tender needs either patching or part renewing and that is the worst of it. There will be some stays in the boiler no doubt, but mechanically she is sound and from both the society's and the railways point of view a fast and easy fix. We look forward with enthusiasm to getting her going. This could mean then that the society has 3 engines available to steam at the same time This hasn't been said for a while if at all! This doesn't mean that a Stowe overhaul will not be happening. It means that the Stowe job is a much longer one and work on her can happen at the same time as on 847 and 541 without undermining the progress of the other. Well that's about it for now. Don't forget to look in at Sheffield Park if that's possible and come up and talk to us... we don't bite! You never know you might want to do a bit yourself. Good idea that!! 10th October 2008... and interim updateThe good progress with 847’s overhaul continues…The 4 wheel bogie is being re-assembled which will move us closer to the target of rewheeling this autumn, New springs have been acquired and fitted. Final cleaning and painting of the frames is being completed. Meanwhile work continues on drilling out stays in the boiler and new flue tubes and copper bottle ends have been delivered. It is hoped to have the chassis re-wheeled at the end of October. Watch this space for a post re-wheeling update.
27th Jan 2008Boxing clever!S15 class 847After a little break for Christmas and the New Year, the Bluebell Workshop staff and our Working Group are all busy keeping up the progress on our main project the S15 class 847. As well as the boiler, axel boxes are high on the "progress made" list The boiler The main news since the last report is that the boiler was moved into the workshop in November 2007, where both workshop staff and our own voulunteers are able to work in the dry and relative warmth.
Other jobs
StoweSteam Railway ran a good article about the cosmetic re-paint of Stowe (and the overhaul of 847) in their January 2008 edition. David Jones and Simon Allen completed the re-paint and lettering on the tender, in time for the photo session, and some touching up work of paintwork on top of the tender has also been undertaken. Fundraising - 847 tube appeal/Stowe appealFinance as ever is pressing issue. The MLS has already spent over £35,000 on 847’s overhaul. We want to help get the project finished as soon as we can – so we are asking people to sponsor one of 167 boiler tubes for £25 and or one of the 24 flue tube for £125. We have already had sponsorship for 40 boiler tubes and 4 flue tubes. Can you help? You know it makes sense! Please send cheques made payable to “Maunsell Locomotive Society” Since Steam Railway were offering to publicise our work with Stowe, it was too good an opportunity to miss. We certainly would like to start work on Stowe, after we have done as much as we can to help with 847. It is not unreasonable to forsee that by the end of 2008 we could be starting on the project, with removing tubes etc from the boiler. We have over £11,000 in the bank now, so if you would like to help with Stowe as well, we have a separate account running for it, so again, just send a cheque to the Treasurer – see above. Please also consider joining the Society, it only costs £10 per year or £140 for Life Membership. See the membership form section of the website, or otherwise just send a cheque for the appropriate membership category, to our Membership Secretary, Mr George Binns, 21 Barnfield Close, Hastings TN34 1TS Finally we must not forget the PMV, where Rodney Packham has now only got one more door left to do. So something to celebrate for the next Points and Crossings, (Bluebell Railway in house magazine) hopefully! And last of all a happy and productive New Year to all who follow our work 30th Nov 2007Progress!S15 class 847 Key tasks undertakenBoiler out of the frames, grit blasted and painted. Corroded smokebox removed, all boiler tubes out. Recently the workshop staff have started to remove all the crownstays as they require replacement. Current work over the winterBoiler Frames Other jobsThe PMV van.The complete rebuild of the PMV van is coming along nicely. All the wooden body work has been renewed and 6 out of the 8 doors have been replaced and the last two new doors are being made now. The van also has a new roof cover and solid steel floor in place. Our other locos 6th July 2007Boiler sounded out!S15 class 847
We are managing to progress work on the boiler, even working in the open in the loco yard. Every second rivet has been removed from the foundation ring and around the firehole door. These will be riveted up when the boiler goes into the works. Frank Glue has started the long and gutty job of removing the heads off stays that will need to be replaced.So far he has tackled around 150 stay heads - at least 400 will need to be replaced.
FramesRay Bellingham has been busy with various skilled jobs. He has completed dismantling the motion and starting the overhaul of its bushes etc. He has dismantled the weighbeam shaft for overhaul, split the crossheads and taken the valves out and the pistons will be out soon. Frank helped Ray to dismantle and drop the brake cylinder from within the frames. Two of the volunteer gang have got stuck in on the long and tedious job of cleaning up the loco frames of much sticky oily gunge, to ensure there is a decent clean “base”. Most of the outside of the frames have been cleaned up and are now being painted into undercoat. Simon Allen, Barry Smith and Jo Faircloth had a fun day dismantling the cab floor which was found to be rotten and the whole area has been cleaned and painted in primer. The drag box on S15s are one large solid casting. 847’s is in good condition and does not require any work. The wheelsets have returned from the South Devon Railway having had their tyres turned and journals polished. They are now being needle gunned and painted in primer. Meanwhile Tony Funnel has looked over the axleboxes and found that they were in need of re-metaling to be fit for a full ten year service. He has run out the old metal and re-metalled them and has started to machine them to fit the newly polished journals. One of the axle boxes was found to be cracked and needed to be carefully welded together. Fred Bailey has been of great assistance and produced a fine set of drawings for new loco springs and an order has been placed for a full new set of springs. What next?We hope to have the chassis re-wheeled in the Autumn. When the C class emerges from the workshop the boiler is due to go inside for the boiler work to be pushed forward.
PMV van 2186Rodney Packham has completed the fourth new door and the whole west side elevation is complete with chalk boards and vents etc. U Class 16381638 running well, clocking up the highest mileage in service in 2006 (over 8,000), and likely to be up at the front again re mileage this year as well. Schools class StoweDavid Jones has finished painting the tender in top coat, a source for new lettering is being investigated. 29th April 2007De-grease is the word!S15 class 847
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Coming upSimon and David will hopefully continue work on painting Stowe. David has now finished painting the tender, and it awaits lettering. FinallyOur favourite U class is back running regular service trains, and is becoming a regular on the Pullman dining trains. Now the summer months are fast approaching, weather is definitely warming up, and there is nothing better than a day in the company of a fine locomotive and some fresh air. The 6th February 2007 EditionAnd they are off .!!S15 class 847
Once this is done all wheelsets are ready to go away for tyre turning. Meanwhile Ray Bellingham has been examining the axleboxes and journals and it looks like very little work is required. We need to order a full new set of springs. Ray has also been sorting out machining various pins and parts that are worn re the axle boxes and springs so it could all be re-assembled quickly once the re-profiled wheels are back.
Can you help us speed up the overhaul of 847? . We now need to raise £1,200 to pay for the transport of the wheelsets to go away for tyre turning. So if you want to help get a good solid loco going quickly - please send the Society a donation, no matter how modest, now. Please make cheques payable to the Maunsell Locomotive Society and send to the Treasurer, 312 Riverside Mansions, Milk Yard, Wapping, London E1W 3TA. PMV van 2186Simon Allen has completed all the new woodwork for the van body and has had help from Rodney Packham to start making new doors. Simon has made up two new window surrounds and Malcolm Watts has offered to help finish off some of the others. It is really beginning to look the part now. ...and not forgetting..U class 1638 Ran well in 2006, and most likely not in use again until the Spring. Go see the new Beatrix Potter film and there is a nice shot of it pulling away from Horsted. A good film for other reasons as well. Schools class Stowe Simon Allen and David Jones will be back to finish off the re-paint once work on the PMV is complete, and the weather more suitable in the Spring. |
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The 30th Oct 2006 EditionOver and out!
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Good progress is being made with dismantling the locomotive's motion and other parts to enable the frames to be lifted at the end of November and wheelsets then sent away for tyre turning. The current overhaul will involve turning the driving wheel tyres and some fairly major work on the boiler. The extent of repair required will be determined once the boiler has been grit blasted and subjected to ultrasonic testing to assess the thickness of platework and the need for any replacement work. Initial survey work has found the front tubeplate to be sound and capable of re-use, but the smokebox will require some platework to be replaced either side, at the bottom. The group expect to have to replace at least 400 firebox stays. |
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The 21st Jun 2006 Edition
You've been framed!Well our PMV van no 2186 has been. The wooden timberwork had deteriorated with age, despite numerous repaints and occasional repairs by Rodney Packham, Bernard Wright and Fred Card over the years. In addition the decolite floor had started to break up and the roof had started to leak. (Decolite is a kind of primitive plastic that was cast into a steel mesh to form a water proof and sealed floor to the van) So once work on 1638 had been completed in February 2006 our working gang made a start on the van. Jobs tackled to date have included:- Stripping out all the old floor, needle gunning the underframes and fitting £1,000 of new steel plate floor, upon which a plywood top is being added. Stripping off the old tongue and groove timber cladding, section by section and replacing with new carefully primed and painted tongue and groove cladding off matching style and dimensions. This work has been co-ordinated by our own professional "chippy" Simon Allen. As at the beginning of September about ¾ of the wooden boards had been replaced. The steel verticals that formed the frame for the body had gone a bit "thin" in places and these have also been repaired as required. Attention is also been given to the roof. A new system of "torch on" felt is going to be applied, which should last for up to 20 years. One of our volunteers, Neville Watts has made a start and this should be completed when he is back from hols in mid September. S15 No.847Meanwhile:- S15 class 847 A space has started to be cleared in the Sheffield Park yard to enable 847 to be dismantled and a commitment has been given to us to get the loco over into the yard to allow it to be dismantled before Giants of Steam (in late October 2006). Ray Bellingham has continued to busily apply himself to overhauling all the cab fittings, safety valves, whistles and even the cab windows. A handsome picture of all the overhauled fittings will appear in the next Maunsell Locomotive Society newsletter - it is an impressive collection. Once the loco is dismantled the first step will be to send wheels off for tyre turning and quotes are being sought for this now. We expect this work to cost at least £10,000. The option of grit blasting the boiler is being considered as a means of speeding up the work. There will be a cost involved - approx £3,000 - but this will save many hours labour and get a very good finish. Schools class StoweMelvyn Frohnsdorff has finished off fitting the water gauge on the left hand side of the tender body at the front and this will now allow David Jones to complete painting this side of the tender body. The last job on the tender is to commence painting the lettering - a true trial of a painter's skills and nerve - and not for the faint hearted! Simon Allen has a little bit of work to complete on painting and lining out the splashers - but as mentioned above - he has had to give priority to working on the van. U class 1638 U class 1638And finally... news of good old 1638. It is certainly being put to good use by the Railway and is a regular sight at the head of the trains. It is due to go into the workshop briefly soon for a bit of attention to one of the pony truck axleboxes that has been running slightly warm, but this is not expected to be a big issue. Otherwise it has been a real stalwart in helping run Bluebell's service trains this Spring and Summer and has received favourable comments from both loco crew and workshop staff.Awards for the restoration of 1638We are also pleased to say that the Maunsell Locomotive Society has now won two awards for the restoration of the loco - the first being from the Eastbourne Historical Vehicle Group, who have most kindly awarded the project a £1,000 prize - which is much appreciated. In addition the Southern Railway Group - have awarded the Society its 2006 Denys Fletcher award. They were particularly impressed by the huge amount of work involved, the high standard of that work and the care taken over ensuring the accuracy of the details of the livery. Praise indeed for all those on the Bluebell and Maunsell side who persevered so long and hard to ensure that this Barry "basket case" is once more a useful loco. |
Eastbourne Historic Vehicle Club Awards Scheme
This year the MLS decided to enter U Class locomotive No. 1638 and we were pleased to have won not only first place in the rail vehicle category, but also the overall prize of all the categories, namely cheques to the value of £1000 and an 'Overall Winner' plaque. The route to the award involved winning against the Pullman Car 'Theodora' at the Kent and East Sussex Railway to get the rail category prize, and then against a Series IIA Short Wheelbase Landrover and Windmill Hill Windmill to attain the Overall Prize. Sometimes, not all the categories have entries, hence the lack of competition from sea and air restoration projects. The Maunsell Locomotive Society are pleased to have won this award for 2006 and look forward to being able to enter again when our next project reaches its conclusion. |
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